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drivin98 said in January 23rd, 2010 at 9:51 am

I don’t think it’s a very big deal. It’s nice to see that someone actually uses their Tesla as a daily driver (I mean, look at that dirt!)which means the aren’t burning gas. This makes it easy to forgive the taking of the very small amount of electricity they can get from a 110 outlet in some parking garage.

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Dave said in January 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am

Yea, you’re right it is not that big of a deal. We pay so much for parking at DIA I guess they should let us do it for free.

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ArnB said in January 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

This makes me think of the South Park episode when the kids create a “Smug Alert” by convincing the parents to drive Hybrids. Is the owner of the Tesla so Smug that they are willfully taking advantage of the “free” energy… or are they so unaware that they truly believe this is “free” energy…or are WE unaware of some agreement this eco-conscience sports car driver has entered into with DIA to pay for the energy their car consumes charging while they jet off on their undoubtedly Carbon Offset trip? Hmmmm….
ARN

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Dave said in February 3rd, 2010 at 3:39 pm

My wife cracks me up, she calls these cars, “Eco Ego Cars”.

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EVs R better said in February 3rd, 2010 at 6:09 pm

I think this is a bit of an overreaction. Assuming this Tesla driver drove all the way from C-Springs ~85 miles away, worst case Tesla driving consumes about 3 miles per KWh of electricity which at $.10 per KWh (which is slightly above the national average) cost the great city of Denver about $2.80. If it came from Boulder (~44 miles) it would cost about $1.40 in electricity and from Aurora (~17 miles), driving economically (4 mi/KWh), about $0.43. I suspect that the cost of scrubbing the oil stains on the pavement from gas burners at the DIA parking garage exceed this amount per car, as does the need to provide jump starts for gas burners that can’t start in cold weather.
On the other hand, if this Tesla provokes the rest of the auto industry (as well as Tesla) to produce cheaper, affordable electric cars, the savings to everyone will vastly exceed this insignificant cost.
Maybe a $3000 parking meter should be installed next to the outlet so that charging Tesla’s could pay for parking. Let’s see: for the C-spgs case at $3 into the meter, and assuming 100% occupation and 3 day average stays it would take 123 years to even pay for the parking meter. Maybe it would make more sense to just give the guy the juice (plugging is better for his battery, even if he doesn’t actually need to charge) if he pays for parking anyway, at least until there are enough electric cars to matter.

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jbro said in February 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm

You are over-reacting. It should just be considered part of the rate. It would be like going after the 5 cents of electricity people “steal” form the airport to plug their laptop into the wall at the gate (if they can find one). Honestly, I think the person who did this is lucky thta the normal car thief raoming the lot doesn’t know that extension cord is worth about $200.

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James said in February 3rd, 2010 at 10:13 pm

The charging cable plugged into the Tesla costs $600 for a replacement.

If the person drove less than 100 miles distance to reach the airport, there was no need to even recharge while on the trip. I would have left my Tesla there (unplugged) as long as it had more than 100 miles of available range.

200+ mile range if the owner left the house fully charged before driving to the airport.

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Christof said in February 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am

Oops – copied a bad link (Dave, would you mind deleting my previous entry?)

Here’s a better link to Facebook Plug in America (I think).

http://www.facebook.com/notes/plug-in-america/guerrilla-charging-theft-or-public-service/286235752086

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Dave said in February 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am

No problem, I deleted it.

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Christof said in February 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am

Thank you Dave! You managed to get people talking with that photo — did you just happen to find the car by complete chance?

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Dave said in February 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am

Yep, I was just walking passed it and say, “hmmm that looks interesting”.

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deKoven13 said in February 17th, 2010 at 10:28 am

Have read about your post in three different places. No where did anyone pose this question.

Is it possible that DIA doesn’t mind at all that this EV is plugged in?

Personally, I’d say that it’s very likely the case. Lots like this are patrolled by security and cleaning crews on an ongoing basis. It’s unlikely that they would not have noticed. (After all you did, and you lack the vested interest in the facility that they have.)

I also feel the need to question the presumptive attitude of your initial reaction.

What made you jump to the conclusion that it is a case of theft?

Did you consider that the owner of the car may have asked permission?

Did it occur that the DIA garage might not mind the EV charging there?
(Much as they don’t seem to mind everyone charging their phones and laptops inside the airport.)

Was your initial reaction some deep seeded mistrust of the world, or of EV owners, or was it perhaps an agenda of your own? – To drive traffic to your blog, perhaps?

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Dave said in February 17th, 2010 at 10:39 am

deKoven,

I sent an email to DIA right after I wrote this post to get their comment but they never got back to me.

I am going to be out to DIA again next week, so I will see if I can find someone to ask if it is ok to charge your car there.

At $18 a day, they should.

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Solar cars said in March 6th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

Seems like the best way to treat this situation is to encourage the people with electric cars to use them, and plug in where they need to. That promotes their viability and gets more people interested.

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